tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3003200974688946575.post3065180114232133979..comments2023-09-02T04:30:46.604-07:00Comments on Musings of an intrigued nobody: "Islamophobia" - time to end the doublespeak.SoggyMoghttp://www.blogger.com/profile/12357790920813258281noreply@blogger.comBlogger42125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3003200974688946575.post-81837510524791639592012-10-12T14:05:09.003-07:002012-10-12T14:05:09.003-07:00I meant to comment on this when I first read it bu...I meant to comment on this when I first read it but I forgot and I've since read back a couple months and I simply had to tell you that I love you. Seriously, I agree with pretty much everything you post about. How did you get in my head? <br />I also really really appreciate this post most of all because so many people refuse to say anything about Islam. I'm also not a fan of the Atheism+ movement and the players at its centre. These women would rather complain about being hit on in elevators and being a called bad names then criticizing the most obvious and least apologetic proponent of misogyny in the world today which is Islam. Why is it that it seems like a significantly higher amount of energy is being devoted to establishing and defending the A+ movement than any of them have been giving to criticizing the atrocities by Islamists in the Middle East in the past couple of months? It's why if I needed (I don't) or wanted a female atheist representative I'd choose a women's rights activist like Ayaan Hirsi Ali over a petty feminist like Rebecca Watson or Jen McCreight any day. <br /><br />AshtheVikinghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08758659398649657277noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3003200974688946575.post-73725624651718603752012-09-25T07:48:33.515-07:002012-09-25T07:48:33.515-07:00I penned a poem on this issue, hope you like it:
...I penned a poem on this issue, hope you like it:<br /><br />http://bloodyreligion.blogspot.co.uk/2012/09/islamist-apologists.html<br />BloodyReligionhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14724038758931460869noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3003200974688946575.post-38131798416578069782012-09-23T19:52:02.458-07:002012-09-23T19:52:02.458-07:00You're scared.... of a WEBPAGE? People quite o...You're scared.... of a WEBPAGE? People quite often converse online using a nom-de-plume, but if you scratch the surface even slightly you will see that nobody is hiding. You simply have to click on my name to see my profile and then click my homepage to see my facebook page. All of which you should know if you spend more than 5 minutes a week on the internet.<br /><br />Why do I say you are not a scientist? Your arguments and thought processes are not scientific. Apparently you have an honours degree and work as a physicist. This qualifies you to talk about physics, much as my BSc qualifies me to talk about computer science. Doesn't make either of us scientists by the proper definition. Unless you have a doctorate I don't know about.<br /><br />And why have you deleted all your posts?Smegger68https://www.blogger.com/profile/15326523970423575675noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3003200974688946575.post-51889088974972699022012-09-23T18:29:41.027-07:002012-09-23T18:29:41.027-07:00Hi Smegger68, I'm sorry but how you know I'...Hi Smegger68, I'm sorry but how you know I'm not scientist? I am...ok.... I have noticed that majority of you in this site have a fake names even SoggyMog, and she even hide her photo. who hide his ID? Who? I must say I regret being in this site because is so secretively...God I was so stupid to come to here and pay comment I should have noticed that majority are fake. this is last time I visit here, it's scary especially after SoggMog hid her photo... Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15109905408193348331noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3003200974688946575.post-782663125151516742012-09-23T11:58:23.585-07:002012-09-23T11:58:23.585-07:00Chaza you are not a scientist. Your argument is fa...Chaza you are not a scientist. Your argument is fallacious and well trodden. Non belief in creationism does not equate to belief in non-creationism. This is why no-one is interested in debating creationists - they can't even get the basic tenets of the arguments straight. Smegger68https://www.blogger.com/profile/15326523970423575675noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3003200974688946575.post-22246689734822051762012-09-21T06:47:10.747-07:002012-09-21T06:47:10.747-07:00This comment has been removed by the author.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15109905408193348331noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3003200974688946575.post-9617104474589216062012-09-21T05:47:05.618-07:002012-09-21T05:47:05.618-07:00"Prove the creator doesn't exist?" Y..."Prove the creator doesn't exist?" You've got that backwards; that's not how science and logic work.<br /><br />The one making the claim has the burden of proof; otherwise, you'd have to believe ANYTHING anybody said, about ANY topic whatsoever, until you encountered ironclad proof that it was wrong. And have you ever encountered absolute proof that there were no leprechauns?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3003200974688946575.post-27830981451813423692012-09-19T16:06:29.738-07:002012-09-19T16:06:29.738-07:00Excuse me, copyleft you are again total wrong (in ...Excuse me, copyleft you are again total wrong (in particular about me)!<br /><br />And this is a long discussion what is evidence what is reality etc... etc... just remove from your mind robotic faithful person image... do not make generalizations...<br /><br />Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06363370892721904148noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3003200974688946575.post-48277681980022480632012-09-19T08:24:56.604-07:002012-09-19T08:24:56.604-07:00This comment has been removed by the author.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15109905408193348331noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3003200974688946575.post-4207081284279862982012-09-19T06:40:36.222-07:002012-09-19T06:40:36.222-07:00And I'm sure you believe that. Without evidenc...And I'm sure you believe that. Without evidence. Which, of course, is the problem.<br /><br />When religion does not agree with the real world, the devout person chooses to reject reality rather than re-think their faith.<br /><br />We have the same problem with devout Christians, many of whom explicitly say "I will accept only those parts of science that uphold my faith, and reject all the rest." Whenever you put ANYTHING on a higher level than factual reality... whenever you make science and reason subordinate to ANYTHING... you've abandoned reason and set yourself against the progress of human civilization.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3003200974688946575.post-665586359760672902012-09-18T14:29:04.382-07:002012-09-18T14:29:04.382-07:00This comment has been removed by the author.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15109905408193348331noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3003200974688946575.post-19142196519482191042012-09-18T05:46:39.600-07:002012-09-18T05:46:39.600-07:00Being raised in a devout religious environment is ...Being raised in a devout religious environment is basically brainwashing. Concepts like freedom, legitimate criticism, and rationalism simply never come up in such a setting. Anyone who questions is by definition the epitome of evil, a threat to all that is good and true, and Must Be Destroyed, Period.<br /><br />Faith is the enemy of reason. It's not the fault of the hapless believers who've been programmed to hate, but it is the fault of the culture that sustains such practices.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3003200974688946575.post-40818221830431652632012-09-18T05:18:24.915-07:002012-09-18T05:18:24.915-07:00T%he best... imaginary friend ? T%he best... imaginary friend ? mroederhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00463316995178615141noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3003200974688946575.post-58534590562083575542012-09-18T04:32:30.388-07:002012-09-18T04:32:30.388-07:00This comment has been removed by the author.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15109905408193348331noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3003200974688946575.post-15203514921133847382012-09-18T04:30:22.555-07:002012-09-18T04:30:22.555-07:00This comment has been removed by the author.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15109905408193348331noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3003200974688946575.post-88947451246906827942012-09-18T02:27:03.028-07:002012-09-18T02:27:03.028-07:00Hi there. Unfortunately I don't have time to k...Hi there. Unfortunately I don't have time to keep up with my comments as they happen as I do have a full time job and the usual other commitments. I can't now see your original comment, but I'll have a look at the blog.<br /><br />The only comment I'll make in response before doing that is this; the last thing on earth that I *want* to believe is that there are significant groups of people out there who wish to see me and everything I value destroyed.SoggyMoghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12357790920813258281noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3003200974688946575.post-47815024806288280272012-09-17T17:55:58.168-07:002012-09-17T17:55:58.168-07:00This comment has been removed by the author.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15109905408193348331noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3003200974688946575.post-65503268630782323782012-09-17T17:43:54.326-07:002012-09-17T17:43:54.326-07:00This comment has been removed by the author.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15109905408193348331noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3003200974688946575.post-92229395742203219572012-09-17T11:58:42.168-07:002012-09-17T11:58:42.168-07:00http://www.todayszaman.com/columnist-292636-global...http://www.todayszaman.com/columnist-292636-global-conspiracy.htmlAnonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06363370892721904148noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3003200974688946575.post-72830919919932580852012-09-17T02:48:07.853-07:002012-09-17T02:48:07.853-07:00I am torn between both these points of view, knowi...I am torn between both these points of view, knowing as I do, many perfectly peaceful and friendly Muslims. But the the point in this article with which I can't argue is that the extremists are taking their view from the same book as all other Muslims. Are we saying that any extreme religious faction is essentially wrong, or at least guilty of misunderstanding the book?<br /><br />No, in fact the majority are not better understanding the teachings of their holy book but are guided far less by it. Their morals and and ethics are basically the same as all humans, morals that have evolved in order to protect and expand our species.<br /><br />In my opinion the extremists actually tend to be the ones who are following the religion more closely. The further people are from the extremists in their religion the closer they are to the views of atheists.Jeffhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00841838877507739913noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3003200974688946575.post-75738450251733210752012-09-17T02:15:21.442-07:002012-09-17T02:15:21.442-07:00Yeah, it's all just about the religion. Nothin...Yeah, it's all just about the religion. Nothing to do with the decades of brutal repression by U.S./NATO backed dictators. Nothing at all. *headdesk* You know, one of the beautiful things about being an Atheist is that, at least in theory, you're capable of taking a step back; looking at the bigger picture, searching for context since, as Ben H. Bagdikian wrote in The Media Monopoly, "facts without context are meaningless." I say in theory because I look at this attitude far too many skeptic blogs like this have towards Muslims as if they aren't even human, unlike all the other religions we dispute and I wonder, how then are we any better than the Christians who bomb gay night clubs and women's health clinics? There's being an Atheist, and then there's being an asshole. I'm the former, not the latter. This isn't just "oh those crazy Muslims." VIOLENCE LIKE THIS DOES NOT OCCUR IN A VACUUM PEOPLE!Brian "Arkle" Webberhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15571266914555683946noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3003200974688946575.post-35610379490033670342012-09-16T08:55:22.774-07:002012-09-16T08:55:22.774-07:00bibra, if the attacks had been political in nature...bibra, if the attacks had been political in nature and not religious, I wouldn't have very much to say. But as it stands, they were religious in nature, so to you I say this: Despite our outward appearances, the US is not a theocracy. It is still a democratic and representative republic, and separation of church and state still does exist here, no matter how tenuously. And as an American Atheist, I say that the only way it will ever become a Christian Theocracy is over my dead body.<br /><br />Now, to counteract that bit of bluster, I have a joke I like to tell to religious right-wingers who support the Republican party. And I'll share it with you:<br /><br />Recently, the American Church of Christianity was acquired by Ayn Rand's objectivists. The next version of the King James Bible you read will have The Fountainhead as The Old Testament, and Atlas Shrugged as The New Testament. Jesus is being replaced by John Galt, and Peter will now be played by Dagny Taggart. Of course, the cross will be replaced by the dollar sign as the Christian holy icon.<br /><br />If you don't get the joke, you probably don't live in America, or never heard Hitch's insight into the right wing of our political structure. Tying that joke back to the topic, it's worth noting that Halburton and many other corporations posted record profits during the many wars we fought in the middle east.Austincovellohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13685474977478547454noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3003200974688946575.post-15028781298059180892012-09-16T08:14:34.323-07:002012-09-16T08:14:34.323-07:00So they're responsible for other people's ...So they're responsible for other people's actions, now? Honestly, that could easily have been an atheist disparaging Islam. On some level, I think it should have been, since to my mind, that's our prime directive. In fact, a young man in Egypt was arrested for atheism. As much as I despise Christianity, and realize it has a greater effect on me than Islam does, I don't blame the fundamentalist Christian for the arrest of an Egyptian Atheist. I place the blame squarely where it belongs: with the Muslim community.<br /><br />OTOH, OirishM, the only reason that Christian's aren't doing this is secularism has them on a tight leash. This sort of thing was plenty prevalent in the Dark Ages. What happened was that a series of strong Kings and Queens (and rulers like Bonaparte) stood up to the Vatican and said, "No more. You don't have the right to kill for religious reasons." That's why we have the much more tame Christianity you know today. Islam is going through their own version of The Dark Ages, where they have too much power in the Middle East, but here in the West, as Vicky Caramel stated above, we don't have that problem, for the same reasons we don't have that problem with Christianity or Judaism. Secular law keeps religious fanaticism on a very short leash. When they try to slip that leash (usually by curtailing scientific education, unfortunately), that's when religion becomes a major problem, so that's why it's important that we don't become complacent as we watch the dog and make sure it doesn't go digging in ours or the neighbors' yard, so to speak.Austincovellohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13685474977478547454noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3003200974688946575.post-11249696142373398432012-09-15T09:16:23.877-07:002012-09-15T09:16:23.877-07:00Whatever else you can criticise fundamentalist Chr...Whatever else you can criticise fundamentalist Christians for, they have in no way engaged in the kind of riotous behaviour on the same scale as some Islamic fundamentalists have on numerous occasions. It is flat-out incorrect to say that they're AS BAD as the fanatics demolishing embassies.<br /><br />Terry Jones et al are complete morons, but throughout their cavalcade of stupid behaviour they haven't killed anybody or set any buildings on fire.OirishMhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14926873811400218173noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3003200974688946575.post-16632242208471765952012-09-15T03:47:14.084-07:002012-09-15T03:47:14.084-07:00This comment has been removed by the author.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15109905408193348331noreply@blogger.com